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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Downtown => Topic started by: Noone on November 10, 2015, 05:56:25 PM
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I'd say yes.
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I once worked for a jerk that couldn't stand handicapped people in his store. He would say go help them so they can leave faster. Lets not forget to be handicapped in America still pretty much Sucks!
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There isn't even a regualr kayak launch on the river walk except for the boat ramp. Why not put the handicapped launch there. What does a handicapped kayak launch even require? What qualifies the DCSB building is an appropriate spot for such a launch?
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There isn't even a regualr kayak launch on the river walk except for the boat ramp. Why not put the handicapped launch there. What does a handicapped kayak launch even require? What qualifies the DCSB building is an appropriate spot for such a launch?
I don't know enough about this issue to vote. I think your comments mirror some of the things I was thinking.
As a general rule, I would argue in favour of handicapped-accessable facilities alongside the standard facilities if and where possible. If this question is more along the lines of, "Should there be a kayak launch that is also ADA compliant at the DCSB building" then I'd say I need more info on whether it is feasible, what the cost would be, what the positives and negatives are and what objections (if any) exist.
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I once worked for a jerk that couldn't stand handicapped people in his store. He would say go help them so they can leave faster. Lets not forget to be handicapped in America still pretty much Sucks!
You nail it.
Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting 11/12/15 at 9:30 am in council chambers on the agenda CEO of the DIA Aundra Wallace and Guy Parola.
We want a BRAND?
Visit Jacksonville- Where we tell the wheelchair gang to keep wheelin.
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^ The BRAND is expected out before the end of the year.
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Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting 2 1/2 hours out. 9:30 am in council chambers. JEA-Building Community?
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Where is the Riverkeeper on this?
Agenda item IV of the 11/12/15 Jacksonville Waterways Commission agenda reads:
Presentation on specific Notice of Proposed Change to the Consolidated Downtown Development of Regional Impact
Speaker-Aundra Wallace, Downtown DEVELOPMENT Authority
Speaker- Guy Parola, Downtown DEVELOPMENT Manager
Another agenda item VIII under New Business reads:
Waterways Access, Beth Meyer (Chief of DISABLED Services)
Some thoughts and concerns. Also, Please continue to vote.
Nobody from JEA was there that I am aware of to speak as the present owners of the property.
Aundra Wallace was a No Show. Is it the DIA or DDA? When did the Authority Change or just a typo?
The legislation is 2015-777 and was not assigned to Waterways but was there to side on caution because of the Waterways component of the project. And because of the legislative calendar to move this through.
Waterways approved the project with a Resolution of support.
I spoke with Mike Balanky prior to his presentation and he is supportive of an ADA handicapped watercraft hand launch spot next to his project. I have met with JEA and the opportunity for an ADA handicapped watercraft hand launch parking spot lies solely with those that are making the decisions for the school board property. I wanted to reach out to Mike and Elements because they would be neighbors to this ADA Handicapped Public hand launch parking spot. He supports it. Mike, correct me if I'm wrong with that. Please.
Now agenda item VIII under New Business
WATERWAYS ACCESS, Beth Meyer(Chief of Disabled Services)
Talk about timing!
Beth, talked about "Project Civic Access" This is a Program of the U.S. Department of Justice
There are a number of bullet points but here is the last one.
The DOJ Settlement Agreement is managed in the Disabled Services Division and includes ALL COJ properties and programs.
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Where is the Riverkeeper on this?
Scott Wilson where are you? Somebody text him.
Keep voting.
What are we trying to transform again? Wheelchair gang. Keep wheelin.
The big NEWS of the 11/12/15 Jacksonville Waterways Commission was the "WATERWAYS COMMISSION PRESENTATION on ACCESS by Beth Meyer, P.A. Chief Disabled Services Division ADA Coordinator.
FEDERAL Requirements- Program Accessibility
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Why hasn't 2015-777 been sent to Finance? Scott Wilson where are you?
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I know of only one adaptive use kayak program in Jacksonville. I suspect you should talk to Ralph to get his perspective.
Phoenix Paddle Sports, www.phoenixpaddlesports.com
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Why not?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdiYXdw-E-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R-vllDSIQE
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Today 11/19/15 is Thur. night football. Remember the Titans.
Yesterday was an ADA (Another Downtown Adventure). Launched at RCB. Did a KJB Bluebag cleanup on the JEA property. Was in the River as 4 helicopters flew by as a 20 year ceremony was taking place for the Veterans Memorial Wall.
On 11-20/15 at 10 am 4th floor city hall is a FIND subcommittee meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission. Open to the Public.
Visit Jacksonville, where we tell the wheelchair gang to keep wheelin.
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The Tom Ingram dream of a FIND project at the DCPS building next to the JEA property was added to the Potential 2016 Alternative FIND Projects at the 11/20/15 FIND subcommittee meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission. VERY POSITIVE!
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Please vote. This is Positively Jax.
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2015-777 is active legislation.
Where is 007?
2015-802 Public Hearing at the 12/8/15 full meeting of the Jacksonville city council. Wheelchair gang. Keep Wheelin.
2015-827- Tera Meeks
2015-830- Beth Meyer
Canceling my Downtown District RICO loop today because of wind.
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Wanted to bump this after a positive 12/9/15 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting and a positive KJB Commission meeting.
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Somebody pinch me.
I was on the Westside about 11:30 am just off Normandy and drive by a couple of official looking vehicles that were parked and a couple of other official guys were outside. So I park and ask some people who are there if they know who is visiting. I'm about 100' feet away and the car door opens and out steps Gov. Scott. I give a shout out. And was going to take a picture and he starts walking towards me. Asked me how things were going and what I did and I mentioned to him that I would like to do something Downtown on the Waterway in Jacksonville. I mention to him about the recent FIND meeting and that an ADA HANDICAPPED Watercraft hand launch parking spot for the Wheelchair gang had been put on the 2016 FIND list and mentioned Jacksonville Waterways Commission member Ray Pringle. The Governor was receptive to the idea and mentioned Mayor Lenny Curry. He also gave me the name of Mr. Wes Maul to keep him posted as this positive benefit moves forward through the Legislative Process.
The Commissioners of FIND are appointed by the Governor and represent the East Coast of the state of Florida.
Somebody pinch me.
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Can't have a better SPONSOR for a FIND project than the Governor of the state of Florida. Very Positive.
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Governor Scott in Jacksonville again today at Sweet Pete's 10:30 am. Somebody, anybody, ask him about Economic Opportunity for the ADA HANDICAPPED project that was voted on at the 11/20/15 FIND subcommittee meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission and made the 2016 FIND Alternative project list. This WILL impact the state of Florida.
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Sydney J. Gefen passes. Ferris Wheel for the Northbank?
ADA HANDICAPPED Watercraft hand launch parking spot a 2016 FIND project for the Southbank?
All positive.
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Governor Scott in Jacksonville again today at Sweet Pete's 10:30 am. Somebody, anybody, ask him about Economic Opportunity for the ADA HANDICAPPED project that was voted on at the 11/20/15 FIND subcommittee meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission and made the 2016 FIND Alternative project list. This WILL impact the state of Florida.
Didn't mention this to Gov. Scott or Mayor Curry today but did mention this to State Rep Lake Ray, Jacksonville At-Large city councilman Sam Newby, and TU reporter David Bauerlein. Congratulations to Sweet Pete's.
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Has the 2016 FIND Potential Project list been shown or mentioned in any Print, Radio or TV media? Our property tax money. Final meeting 1/8/16 at city hall. Scott Wilson, where are you? Your Vote counts.
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The 1/8/16 FIND meeting of the great LOST has been CANCELED!
Keep voting.
Has any organization in print, TV, radio made available to anyone in the Public the current 2016 FIND Potential Project list that was voted on at the 11/20/15 meeting?
Total Backroom deals.
Plan on closing out 2015 with a Downtown Jacksonville District RICO Loop in some of the most restricted Waterways in the state. Will do a Vivian Harrell KJB Bluebag cleanup. Throw in some Environmental Ethics-Vince Seibold.
Stay Positive.
I am Downtown and why you aren't.
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Keep voting. If we have to we will support the Wheelchair gang in another county.
Before my trip I emailed Capt. Jim Suber the Waterways Coordinator for the city of Jacksonville.
Will be emailing him a report.
Brief imaginary Task force update.
Came over Mathews bridge and noticed the smoldering smoke from campfires on Exchange Club Island. Took Main St. To RCB. Launched with outgoing tide. Took it over to Berkman Plaza, Plaza at Berkman. Fished under the brand new No Fishing signs that was never before Waterways. Then took it to Hogans Creek. Garbage everywhere. Bird activity was strong. There was a HUGE snapping turtle that was stuck on a log. Very cool. Did a Vivian Harrell KJB Bluebag cleanup. Homeless camps were active. Then took it back and continued to fish at the Jim Love, Kevin Kuzel 26' Berkman Floating dock compromise (Shipyards III) misrepresented by OGC to the Jacksonville Waterways Commission during the 2013 FIND grant application process. Anchored up and spoke to a number of people while I caught Reds, Mangrove Snapper, Croakers, Catfish. Wind was picking up and took it back to RCB.
Happy New Year!
Visit Jacksonville!
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Had a positive email back from my District 4 Jacksonville city council representative. Has anyone seen the 2016 FIND Project list? Next Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting 4 days out. Our property tax money. Stay Positive.
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Thank you to those who have voted for a Positive Project for the Wheelchair gang.
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Spoke at the 1/12/16 full meeting of the Jacksonville city council on 2016-18 then at the full meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting where 2016-18 was voted on and advanced to the Jacksonville city council for a final vote of our 2016 FIND Projects. We are so LOST. HEY! We have a Maritime Management Plan! When did Shipyards go from 150 slips to 400? HEY! We have a BRAND NEW BOAT RAMP in this Project List. Does Putnam county know about this?
The Tom Ingram, Ray Pringle, Lori Boyer, Scott Wilson,Scott Shine, ADA HANDICAPPED Watercraft hand launch parking spot is on the 2016 FIND Alternative Project list. Support is needed from our Educational Community. Have an email in to our St. Johns Riverkeeper.
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There isn't even a regualr kayak launch on the river walk except for the boat ramp. Why not put the handicapped launch there. What does a handicapped kayak launch even require? What qualifies the DCSB building is an appropriate spot for such a launch?
I don't know enough about this issue to vote. I think your comments mirror some of the things I was thinking.
As a general rule, I would argue in favour of handicapped-accessable facilities alongside the standard facilities if and where possible. If this question is more along the lines of, "Should there be a kayak launch that is also ADA compliant at the DCSB building" then I'd say I need more info on whether it is feasible, what the cost would be, what the positives and negatives are and what objections (if any) exist.
Great questions. According to Tera Meeks at the 1/13/16 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting the Project is feasable. The cost for the Public Access ADA compliant kayak launch at the end of the Southbank Riverwalk at the DCSB building next to JEA (District) property is $120,000. The only objection is coming from the Educational Community. Have an email in to Lisa Rinaman our St. Johns Riverkeeper for support.
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I would understand by DCSB wouldn't want it there. You'd be interfering with what is basically their dock area and vehicle parking area. It's already tight to just get in and out of there, I couldn't imagine what would be required for parking at a handicapped kayak launch, but it probably takes a lot of space. What is the reasoning for this site over one at a park or land that the city already owns? It seems to me that there would be a lot of better options than this location.
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Naturally we will be informed by the TU, Folio, Daily Recod, radio, TV stations, Fishing shows about all the reasoning for the 100's of thousands of dollars of our property tax money that is active legislation that is moving through the process. Wrong about the Parking.
I applaud the Jacksonville Waterways Commission for including this ADA Project on the list for the Wheelchair Gang.
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There isn't even a regualr kayak launch on the river walk except for the boat ramp. Why not put the handicapped launch there. What does a handicapped kayak launch even require? What qualifies the DCSB building is an appropriate spot for such a launch?
I don't know enough about this issue to vote. I think your comments mirror some of the things I was thinking.
As a general rule, I would argue in favour of handicapped-accessable facilities alongside the standard facilities if and where possible. If this question is more along the lines of, "Should there be a kayak launch that is also ADA compliant at the DCSB building" then I'd say I need more info on whether it is feasible, what the cost would be, what the positives and negatives are and what objections (if any) exist.
Great questions. According to Tera Meeks at the 1/13/16 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting the Project is feasable. The cost for the Public Access ADA compliant kayak launch at the end of the Southbank Riverwalk at the DCSB building next to JEA (District) property is $120,000. The only objection is coming from the Educational Community. Have an email in to Lisa Rinaman our St. Johns Riverkeeper for support.
WOW! Just 7 days ago 2016-18 was on the agenda for the 1/13/16 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting and approved 9-0 to be advanced to a full floor vote of the Jacksonville city council at their next 1/26/16 meeting. Went to coj.net to check the legislation and it has been WITHDRAWN.
This is OUR property tax money.
Does Putnam county know about this?
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Happy St. Patrick's Day!
Did a District RICO loop within our new 2014-560 zone in my SMART kayak. Parked my SMART van 2016-131 Down by the River at the RCB kayak launch. Caught and will harvest a beautiful 26 3/4" red drim under the brand new No Fishing signs that was never before Wayerways. Did a Vivian Harrell KJB beautiful Bluebag cleanup along with some Vince Seibold Environmental Ethics.
Left the Vivian Harrell KJB Bluebag on the garbage can at the Southbank Riverwalk 2014-190.
I am Downtown and why you aren't
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Happy Mothers Day
ADA Wheelchair gang Adaptive Programming subcommittee meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission is scheduled for 5/9/16 on the 4th floor of city hall and is Open to the Public. Jill Haskell is the Chair. Starts at 10 am.
Also there is an Uber and Lyft meeting scheduled for 10:30 am on the 1 st floor. Councilman Schellenberg is the Chair. Will Public Comment be allowed? Don't bet your medallion on it.
Also at 5pm is an Ethics Commission meeting. Will there be any media there given the abrupt departure of our IG guy Tom Cline? Probably
not.
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ADA HANDICAPPED Adaptive Programming subcommittee meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting 1 hour out at 10 am 4th floor Conf. Rm A. Open to the Public.